[adsl] P2P on unleashed Orcon Avanced 40 Plans

[Raimund Eimann]

Hi,

> I'm not 100% sure, and Orcon may be able to confirm, but my
> understanding is that the Advance 40 plan was not exempt from traffic
> shaping.

* until 4-5 weeks ago, my Advanced 40 plan was working nicely with P2P.

* P2P performance then suddenly degraded from 32kbytes/s to 2kbytes/s.

* the machine which runs the P2P client has neither been reconfigured nor 
switched off. Therefore I strongly assume something changed on the remote 
side.

* At the same time, my connection suddenly was switched to line rate so that 
now I can download files via HTTP & Co. with 400 kbytes/s. This circumstance 
reinforced my suspicion that something has changed on the remote side.

* To clarify: I wouldn't mind the highspeed HTTP & Co. if it wouldn't go hand 
in hand with impaired P2P.

> It may simply be that Orcon have got extremely aggressive with
> their peer-to-peer shaping across all plans now.

Orcon denies having made any changes to the traffic shaping for the Advanced 
40 plan.

> I'd be surprised if the Disputes Tribunal accepted the case though; it'd
> be a pretty interesting argument.

Yeah, maybe it's normal here and I shouldn't bother. Maybe next time Telecom 
will decide to change existing residential phone plans without informing 
their customers: Then it might be possible to get CD-quality on overseas 
calls, but local calls are suddenly so impaired that nothing can be 
understood. On complaining to them, one might get the answer that there is 
absolutely no problem and that my phone must be broken. When describing the 
situation on a mailing list, people might react with lack of understanding, 
because hey, I should really appreciate being able to talk to all my friends 
in Europe, America, Asia and Africa in CD-quality now... after all it costs 
nothing extra.

> I've left the list out of the cc list since you did not include the list
> in your reply to me; so I assume you don't want this on-list.

No, that was by accident, because I simply clicked "reply" and my mail client 
wasn't aware that this mail actually belongs to a mailing list.

> You might 
> want to clarify your actual issue because both myself and another list
> participant couldn't figure out what the actual issue was.

Ok, again:

8 weeks ago:
I'm on an "Advanced 40" plan with Orcon. The service is limited to 256kbit/s 
and that's it: HTTP,SMTP,POP and various P2P protocols share this 256kbit 
channel. While other applications are inactive, P2P occupies the entire 
channel, when anything else is active, P2P gets whatever is left.

Typical usage/month: 39.9GB out of 40GB


Today:
I'm still on an "Advanced 40" plan with Orcon. The service is line rate (down) 
for HTTP,SMTP,POP & Co. P2P protocols are "managed" and run at 2kbytes/s. 
While other applications are inactive, the channel is 94% unused.

Typical usage/month: (estimated) 8GB out of 40GB. The remaining (for me no 
longer usable) 31.9GB/month account to files that are exclusively available 
from P2P. If one measures the use of the connection by received bytes, that's 
a 80% drop.

Cheers,
Raimund